Please, do NOT shutdown 2G

  • 10 August 2020
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As soon as AT&T shut down 2G I switched to T-Mobile.

Now I am hearing rumors that T-Mobile is shutting down 2G at the end of 2020.

I have an Ebay bushiness unlocking AT&T older phones for use on T-Mobile.  Shutting down 2G will make all these phones useless, creating an unimaginable amount of e-waste and destroying me and many others source of income.

A large amount of people still use these older 2G-only phones, due to their reliability and people disliking the lack of options, poor repairability, and poor build quality in the modern phone market.

Perhaps you can add a fee for 2G service to help keep up the cost of maintaining the older network, but I beg, do NOT shut down 2G.

ESPECIALLY because of the COVID-19 pandemic, it is an incredibly terrible idea to force the shutdown at this moment. Many businesses will not be able to cough up the cost for new equipment that relied on the legacy 2G network.


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This, my dear friend, may make you sweat a bit. 

 

https://www.t-mobile.com/news/business/t-mobile-and-deutsche-telekom-launch-t-iot

 

I believe our days may be numbered. Still plentiful, but definitely numbered. 

I have read the link you sent and I am not against the 5G development BUT the existing 2G or 3G network NEEDS to stay, why? If Deutsche Telekom and T-Mobile completely ditch their older networks, then if these LTE or 5G towers fail, then there will be no backup system to cover these devices. As I read, they even stated that the gap between 5G IoT and reality is major.

 

Speaking of our old durable phones, I agree with you that the days are numbered for 2G network but our humanly days are also numbered, and we are living in the Biblical end times too. I know man, I really like my old phones too, I have a Nokia 3390, 5190, 1616-2c, and a 3395 but unfortunately I noticed modern SIM cards barely work or at all with them, example I can give is on my 3390 the phone disconnects after a few hours and I have to reconnect with my smartphone to get service back, while my 3395 unlocked from X-Cingular works really good but it still loses service suddenly and I have to restart it to get it back, so unfortunately that means THE ONLY people that will access the 2G network trouble free for a long time to come are those that still didn’t upgrade or have a really old SIM card to work well in a really old 90s or a early 2000s phone.

 

It is a very sad world we live in where we are nearly being forced to use a phone that we don’t necessarily want to use 24/7. I am not against 5G but personally not interested in 5G because all 5G phones and the infrastructure are so poorly built, phones like the Galaxy S22 Ultra are extremely fragile and break apart in seconds, and newer iPhones from the 12 and now the upcoming 14 are also a little bit more fragile than older iPhones that can withstand anything, I work at a uBreakiFix repair shop so I have seen it already and if you have any further questions about various phones and their durability please ask me or DM me if you can.

 

In conclusion: I also want to be able to use my Nokias for many more years to come, I may not be using a 3310 or a 5110 in 2022 but a newer one on the 2G network will do me justice. T-Mobile 2G GSM Network shutdown won’t happen for a good while because they realize how many people will complain to them about the complete sunset if they actually do it and not only that, they will lose a lot of those people (kind of including me) in the process due to the shutdown because T-Mobile is based upon: “helping people that don’t want to pay or don’t have the funds for overpriced Verizon or AT&T service and it’s not phones only, it could also be for M2M and IoT machines.”

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they will lose a lot of those people (kind of including me) in the process due to the shutdown because T-Mobile is based upon: “helping people that don’t want to pay or don’t have the funds for overpriced Verizon or AT&T service and it’s not phones only, it could also be for M2M and IoT machines.”

 

Ironically, if (when) they cut 2G, you’ll have nowhere to go, as 2G has been removed from all others.

 I am not against 5G but personally not interested in 5G because all 5G phones and the infrastructure are so poorly built, phones like the Galaxy S22 Ultra are extremely fragile and break apart in seconds, 

If you want a more rugged device, a CAT 562 or CAT S22 should be sturdy enough.

In my area, EDGE as well as 3G are both still active in my area, however, converted Sprint sites do not have the 2G/3G deployment (also missing one panel).  Similarly, many states on 2G only will have … ‘No Service’ period, as 2G was never deployed, but 4G B71/5G n71 were.  Also … nothing to roam on, as T-Mobile is the last carrier with 2G.

Note:  T-Mobile’s maps are always over optimistic on coverage .. take it with a grain of salt.

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T-Mobile GSM is staying for a long time and it’s not going anywhere! T-Mobile recently updated their Network Evolution page and stated that Sprint’s 3G and LTE network are gone along-side it’s own 3G UMTS network BUT 2G hasn’t been stated to shut down! Cost means NOTHING for keeping 2G running because in many European countries GSM or in some also UMTS is staying at it’s fullest capacity too! Remember, it’s all about making customers happy! Unfortunately T-Mobile themselves make it very hard to activate Non-VoLTE service with them and it’s sad as most likely we are THE LAST GSM 1900MHz Band 2 network in the world that is operational still. I will be protesting on the discussions or maybe in real life too against a 2G shutdown if a set date EVER happens to come up on the Network Evolution page for 2G because I like my classic Nokias more than any phone on this earth and the last thing I want is to be told I can’t use them anymore!

 

Also to add: I don’t care what people think of me for using an old Nokia but I like them a lot! I like using my 3395 that has monophonic ringtones and also it fits very nicely in my hands and also fits in my pocket instead of using these large phones. I hate this freaking modern LTE or 5G UGC Ultra Garbage Capacity crap. I like my Nokias a lot because they scream of reliability and good durability too! I don’t “need” a rugged phone. Again, I feel like I am being forced to give up what I like and use some garbage instead that won’t ever make me feel happy.

 

Me being forced to give up my Nokias is like I have a forced breakup or divorce or I am having an arranged marriage meaning I can’t have a choice anymore as to what I want to use. No, seriously it does kind of feel that way!

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Just as a note… T-Mobile shut down 3G in my area a week ago.  2G is still active… for now.

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Just as a note… T-Mobile shut down 3G in my area a week ago.  2G is still active…

Just as a note too… I have heard that 3G shutdown has affected 2G in a good way or a bad way depending on the area. 2G for some people in their area gets better coverage on 2G after 3G has gone, and some areas have experienced the opposite meaning that 2G got slightly worse after 3G retirement. If you have 2G still, you will still continue to have it and since they aren’t shutting down 2G, they won’t kill off your area just like that. Though, cell service could get worse if T-Mobile doesn’t maintain 2G but I am just saying…  JUST SAYING.

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in my area, no real difference,  as they have been pushing a lot of 5g.  in the rural areas, it's noticeable,  as what was 5g ==> 4g LTE  ==> 3g/2g pretty much dies at 4g LTE with a few more miles of ‘No Service ‘

 

 

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looks like the end of 2g is officially updated. 

 

https://www.t-mobile.com/support/coverage/t-mobile-network-evolution

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