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Seems like for the NOK 5g21 gateway, as of today, the firmware number is 1.2003.03.0168.

If and when a newer version is released, please provide the version that is out.

Thanks!


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I found this page listing the firmware updates and notes: https://www.t-mobile.com/support/devices/firmware-updates--t-mobile-home-internet

 

Power cycled desktop and 30second deep factory reset trashcan, got 1000Mb/s link back, Internet performance back up to acceptable speeds.  The throttling was gone. 

 

 

Am I reading this right, You are getting 1000mbps or are you getting 100mbps

 

bock57,

Sorry, I’m being confusing!  The 1000mbps refers to the hardware link speed (that is, 1 gig-Ethernet).  Earlier, I’d seen the link speed drop down to the 1980’s level: 10mbps (10baseT)  So that explains why I thought I was seeing throttling, but the throttling was in the connection from my PC to the trashcan.  Deep-reset and reboot of the PC brought the link speed back up to gig-E, and I’ve been seeing roughly the same speeds I saw prior to getting the .0338 firmware.

I’m getting 120Mbit/sec down and 40Mbit/sec up at the best (3am-ish), and 60/20 at worst during mid-day.

So, .0338 is working OK for me

Thx

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Power cycled desktop and 30second deep factory reset trashcan, got 1000Mb/s link back, Internet performance back up to acceptable speeds.  The throttling was gone. 

 

 

Am I reading this right, You are getting 1000mbps or are you getting 100mbps

 

 

 

just noticed my trashcan, which had been running 1609 for months, very happily, is now running 1.2103.00.0338.  I'm currently experiencing what looks like throttling of download speeds at 1 MByte/s.  

 

Edit 2:. My bad!  Noticed somehow my Ethernet connection between trashcan and desktop was running 10Mb/s.  Power cycled desktop and 30second deep factory reset trashcan, got 1000Mb/s link back, Internet performance back up to acceptable speeds.  The throttling was gone. 

 

Edit:. Misspoke.  Previous version was 1609, throttling is 1MB, not 1Mb.

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My gateway was upgraded (without any notification, mind you) to 1.2103.00.0338 a few weeks ago. No major issues with the internet service per se, but now the Home Internet app fails to show the list of devices attached to the network. I know my way around computers and can find workarounds, but this can be a big annoyance for most average users.

I am also on 0338 and using android phone, I am seeing my devices, it’s showing the connection better, but I still can’t edit them. 

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My gateway was upgraded (without any notification, mind you) to 1.2103.00.0338 a few weeks ago. No major issues with the internet service per se, but now the Home Internet app fails to show the list of devices attached to the network. I know my way around computers and can find workarounds, but this can be a big annoyance for most average users.

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Here in Hawaii my Nokia connects to B2 & N71, huge improvement in speed with the 1609 firmware.  My previous best speeds were 40 down/10 up ... now those are my absolute minimum speeds.  With the built-in WiFi my average is now 80/10. I no longer use the internal WiFi so I turned down the 2.4/5GHz transmission powers to 12%. 

I recently added an Ubiquiti Dream Machine Pro SE & WiFi 6 Lite Access point in a double NAT configuration and was surprised to see peaks at 250/70, average 140/40. Until Tmobile gives us bridge mode that’s how I roll my Nokia FG-21. 

I’m now a happy camper with Tmobile Internet. 

 

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@TimswI had not received the ‘1609’ update either. I contacted support via Twitter direct message @TMobileHelp. They attempted to push it and it failed. I power cycled the router and they pushed it again...successfully. Time will tell if it helps.

My point is that by contacting support I was able to get the firmware update.

Yup, that’s how you can do it, and probably worth a try if you are among the people who want a 4G connection, because the 5G in your area is bad. Or they have the VPN issues mentioned in the T-Mo Report.

I would like to hear from people who get the update, if they notice any difference, speed improvement, stability, or whatever. So get back to us if you notice anything. 

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@Timsw I had not received the ‘1609’ update either. I contacted support via Twitter direct message @TMobileHelp. They attempted to push it and it failed. I power cycled the router and they pushed it again...successfully. Time will tell if it helps.

 

My point is that by contacting support I was able to get the firmware update.

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It’s now Sept 8 and I have not received the 5G gateway firmware (or “software” as it lists in the GUI) update from 1.2003.03.0178 to the new 1.2101.00.1609 which was supposed to roll out to users throughout August but has obviously been delayed because of some problems.

The T-Mo Report four weeks ago said: The update claims to fix two known VPN issues, one with Cisco AnyConnect and one with GlobalProtect. More importantly, the update claims to improve the poor 5G signal experience. Apparently, this fixes situations where a 5G signal is poor and the LTE signal would be a better connection.

One comment in a video of Tyrone’s “Tech Life Channel” on YouTube said something which for me means this is the problem they are trying to fix before they roll it out to more people. That is, one comment says he got the new 1609 update, and used to get 500Mbps download speeds on the B2/n41 signal combination but is now stuck on a much slower 4G-alone B4 band.

On the other hand, for the few people who get better 4G service in their area and their 5G is terrible, this may be a great update for those people. This will help those people get their fastest speed on the 4G rather than having to trade their gray can for the old 4G model, at least until the 5G service in their area improves.

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FYI - I haven’t had any issues since last weekend. This says “4G” because they don’t have a 5G option yet.  
 

 

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This seems to have settled down for me still on 1.2101.00.1609 so maybe we just have to be patient while they get the kinks ironed out. My old service was so slow it’s hard to be worse than it was :|

 

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I’m getting drastically different speeds now too. Massive amounts of “buffer bloat’ according to the speed tests. With my old router I could adjust the settings but there’s not really any option to do anything with this one.

At this point, the speed test fails without completing.

 

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Just ran the same test from my 5G cell phone near the can and getting 200 down. So can gets 2 down while the phone gets 200 down. Clear there is an issue with the can and not the tower.

Fan under can and room is ac cool so should not be an overheat issue.

 

Hopefully TMobile doesn’t selectively throttle certain network protocols. Supposedly they don’t. I’d expect a congested network to be reflected on T-Mobile phone speeds over 5G (not wifi) as well as the Internet Home service. Phone users going over 50 GB a month are “prioritized’ according to the web site but I don’t know (yet) if that affects Home Users.

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Just ran the same test from my 5G cell phone near the can and getting 200 down. So can gets 2 down while the phone gets 200 down. Clear there is an issue with the can and not the tower.

Fan under can and room is ac cool so should not be an overheat issue.

 

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Not much was on vac then got back gateway broke was offline for a week.

Kinda bummed speed was 500 now I’m getting 1-15 video buffering on all calls today.

Odd is the upload is great 25-50 just download is slow.

Just rebooted no change same speeds off to another call now.

I only have 3 bars on 5G connection and still get over 200 megabit and video is good. I connected the LAN 1 port on my router to a local switch instead of using WIFI for most things. Are you using Wifi or ethernet? Can you watch Netflix, Amazon, Hulu, etc?

https://fast.com/ will show you how your Netflix connection is specifically for a test. If it still shows over 100 Mbps then it’s probably not your connections. Perhaps there’s a specific issue with streaming.

Speed tests on http://www.dslreports.com/ can show you connections more generally. 

Also, today I have 1.2101.00.1609 as well.

Fast shows 8.9 so slow. All Wifi on can disabled with fan under can on full.

Can is ethernet to Google Wifi mesh. However do note connecting laptop to second ethernet port on can yields the same results so it has nothing to do with the Google Wifi.

 

 

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Not much was on vac then got back gateway broke was offline for a week.

Kinda bummed speed was 500 now I’m getting 1-15 video buffering on all calls today.

Odd is the upload is great 25-50 just download is slow.

Just rebooted no change same speeds off to another call now.

I only have 3 bars on 5G connection and still get over 200 megabit and video is good. I connected the LAN 1 port on my router to a local switch instead of using WIFI for most things. Are you using Wifi or ethernet? Can you watch Netflix, Amazon, Hulu, etc?

https://fast.com/ will show you how your Netflix connection is specifically for a test. If it still shows over 100 Mbps then it’s probably not your connections. Perhaps there’s a specific issue with streaming.

Speed tests on http://www.dslreports.com/ can show you connections more generally. 

Also, today I have 1.2101.00.1609 as well.

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I got 1.2101.00.1609 last nite. Today speeds seem much slower than yesterday as in very slow having issues with work video calls.

 

How much is the total usage for the month to date? I thought Home Internet came with unlimited usage and no throttling but I keep seeing warnings on their website about throttling if over 50GB of data is used. That may just be for phones but the information available isn’t particularly matched to their Home Internet customers. I’ll need to wait until next month some time to see if I actually get my speed reduced.

Not much was on vac then got back gateway broke was offline for a week.

Kinda bummed speed was 500 now I’m getting 1-15 video buffering on all calls today.

Odd is the upload is great 25-50 just download is slow.

Just rebooted no change same speeds off to another call now.

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I got 1.2101.00.1609 last nite. Today speeds seem much slower than yesterday as in very slow having issues with work video calls.

 

How much is the total usage for the month to date? I thought Home Internet came with unlimited usage and no throttling but I keep seeing warnings on their website about throttling if over 50GB of data is used. That may just be for phones but the information available isn’t particularly matched to their Home Internet customers. I’ll need to wait until next month some time to see if I actually get my speed reduced.

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I got 1.2101.00.1609 last nite. Today speeds seem much slower than yesterday as in very slow having issues with work video calls.

Since I am mostly new to the service and I was down for a week waiting for replacement gateway I am not sure on historical performance.

I have moved the can around. The best spot is a second fl window kinda between the 5G and an LTE tower. I can put it in line of site of the 5G tower but always seems slower there as it cannot lock on a secondary signal.

Why does it keep the LTE as primary when the 5G has the better stronger signal?

I do have the fan under the unit and all Wifi off.

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I just received mine and it has 1.2003.03.0168. I was really disappointed to see no options to change the lan or DHCP settings. It works great after I reconfigure everything else on my network to use the new subnet. :|

Fortunately, DHCP seems to assign at 192.168.12.200+ so I can keep static addresses and use my  existing 801.11ac wireless.

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For anyone that is interested in more details about the T-Mobile gateway waveform.com has an interesting and informative article that provides more understanding about the reporting and how to improve the operation. Of course they promote external antenna solutions but well if you want to improve the signal quality this can improve data rates and make the solution more enjoyable. In my case i know I have reporting for “Good” to “Excellent” signal strength on both LTE and 5G signals but the 5G signal could have improved “Signal Quality” but it is still in the Good range. So, it makes it difficult to know why the signals are dropping at random times repeatedly. It still could be a software issue that results in communication issues with the tower but this is a hard one to determine alone.

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It really is unpredictable for service delivery. If T-Mobile engineers are messing with the gear on the tower the signal drops. Given T-Mobile’s aggressive expansion of services this would not surprise me. With the GW outside the house both the primary and secondary signals still drop at random times. The signal is a little improved by a few dBm but not that substantial given the tower is direct line of sight less than 2 miles to the SE. 

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I have had the T-Mobile GW since early January 2021 and the GW has taken a few updates. Currently it is on 1.2003.03.0178 which appears to be the most recent. I opened a support call on Monday due to operation being flakey. I would not say 1.2003.03.0178 is the holy grail. The unit tends to drop the secondary channel on the  n71 band more often than it should in my opinion. It will hold the primary channel B2 fairly well most of the time but reporting can be deceiving. The LED panel on the top may report 3 or 4 bars but the login via the software interface does not provide significant clarity as the two views can differ. My Linux, Windows, and Apple clients can have a solid WIFI signal and burp… no internet service so sessions drop. At times a reboot of the GW can recover partial operation but it takes more time for it to establish a lock on the secondary n71 band. With just the primary B2 channel latency is higher, LTE, so performance drops pretty much in half what both bands deliver. The newer code does engage the RJ45 connections as I run CAT 6 from my MAC to avoid the WIFI but when the GW to tower channel drops take place it is still a problem. I think newer code is still necessary.

I just called to complain about the VPN issue.  Instead of pushing me a firmware update they asked if it was OK to send me a new gateway.  I said yes.  I’ll have it on Friday.  Bet it comes with the new firmware.  I was still on 0168.  

 

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